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Press Gaggle by Ari Fleischer
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Good morning. I'm here to report, and we're joined by Jim Towey, who heads the Faith-based Initiative for the President, and wants to share some information with you, as well.

The President this morning called President Lagos of Chile. The President called him to mark the successful conclusion yesterday of the U.S.-Chile free trade agreement negotiations. The two Presidents discussed the significance of this achievement, which not only deepens the U.S.-Chile bilateral relationship, but it is a positive signal to the hemisphere about the importance of free trade, and it's an important way of continuing to create jobs in America.

Then the President had his intelligence briefing, FBI briefing, and now we are on our way to Philadelphia. I'll return to Philadelphia in just a second. Upon returning to the White House, the President will drop by the American Legislative Exchange Council and briefing here at the White House.

In Philadelphia, as part of the President's vision of compassionate care for the poor and those in danger of being left behind, the Office of Faith-based Community Initiatives has identified at-risk youth as one of the target populations where we need to help Americans at risk.

Children of inmates are one of the most endangered groups in America today. There are 1.5 million children across the country who have parents incarcerated in state and federal prisons. These children are six times more likely than their peers to suffer from problems such as juvenile delinquency, alcohol and substance abuse, and poor academic performance. Without effective intervention, 70 percent of these children will likely follow their parent's path into prison or jail.

The program the President is visiting is called the Amachi Mentoring Program, and it's one of the nation's leading programs for mentoring children of prisoners. The President is looking forward to his visit there. And then the President will make remarks, at which time he will sign an executive order that makes it easier for faith-based groups to work with the federal government to compete for and receive federal funds while retaining their religious character.

The executive order -- and Jim is available here to answer any questions about it -- will ensure that agency regulations and procedures are consistent with equal treatment principles. It will direct agencies to change their regulations so that no organization will be discriminated against based on religion, and that no beneficiary of a federally funded social service may be discriminated against based on any grounds.

I want to give you two examples of why the President thinks this is necessary. After the Seattle earthquake, there was a group in Seattle that applied for federal funds under FEMA as a result of the damage done in the course of the earthquake. This group, the Seattle Hebrew Academy, was a private religious school which was denied relief after the earthquake on the grounds that it was a religious institution and, therefore, did not qualify for disaster relief. The President's executive order will change that. The President sees no reason why a group that is damaged by an earthquake should be discriminated against because its mission is religious.

Similarly, another organization I want to cite for you is in Oklahoma, in Tulsa, there's a small faith-based organization that provides great after-school programs for juvenile delinquents. It applied for a $10,000 grant in April of 2001 under a Department of Justice program that was -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q How much?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: $10,000. It's called the Sharyn Cosby Ministries. It applied for a $10,000 grant in April of 2001 through the Department of Justice for a program that was administered by the Oklahoma Juvenile Justice Division. It's a highly regarded program. And they were notified in June 2001 that they received the award. But then, after the group's bylaws were reviewed, the organization was declared too religious in nature, even though the service the organization was providing was completely secular. The grant decision was then reversed.

The actions the President is taking today will help ensure that groups like this, that very often are the best groups in society to help those who have been left behind, will no longer be denied funds simply because they have a religious nature. The President looks at people in America who have been left behind, they deserve every shot at making it in America, and believes that these barriers serve as an impediment to helping people make it in America.

There are many government programs that do their best to help the poor and the needy. Despite the good intention of those programs, there still remain addicts, children of prisoners and many others who are left behind. And the President wants to extend society's help to all those groups who -- people who fall through the cracks. And he believes the executive orders he will sign today will help bring help to people who have been left behind and have fallen through cracks.

The last item I want to bring to your attention, and then both Jim and I are happy to take your questions, is a very exciting announcement, I'm very pleased to make it. As part of an annual tradition that started with Jackie Kennedy, this morning Mrs. Bush is visiting the Children's National Medical Center for the annual holiday party. She'll be escorted to the party by a young gentleman named Iran Brown and Elise Smith. Iran is the 13-year-old sniper victim who until today has not been seen publicly. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q From Bowie Middle School?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: His family requested that he escort Mrs. Bush for today's visit. He was treated in the burn, surgery and trauma unit in the hospital and is now an outpatient.

The other part of the announcement, which I was referring to earlier, that I want to share with you, is as part of the program about holiday giving and holiday joy and a season of -- this happy season, Mrs. Bush will debut the Barney Cam before about 50 child patients and their families. The video will be played, and then the real Barney will join Mrs. Bush on stage as she takes questions from the audience. It's an open press event. The Barney Cam is, of course, going to go on the White House webpage. It's just little old Barney wearing a camera that's smaller than the ones that the usual White House cameramen have to carry, as Barney films life at the White House at the holiday season. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q Has Barney joined the Screen Actors Guild, or does he have a union card?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Barney is a union buster from way back. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q What time is the event, Ari.
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Mrs. Bush's event? Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Yes.
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Mrs. Bush's exciting event -- my paperwork on it doesn't indicate time, but I remember from the briefing that I had that it was, I think, around 10:15 a.m. or so. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Can I ask a process question about the executive order? Did the President sign it already, before he left the White House, or will that happen --
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. TOWEY: He's going to sign it at the end of his remarks today. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q So we'll actually see that happen.
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: But there are other executive orders that are part of today that he did sign at the White House. He'll sign one today in Philadelphia. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Can you tell me the distinction between some of those?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. TOWEY: The executive orders dealing with the faith-based initiative -- there are two of them. The one that he will sign on stage is the Equal Protection Executive Order that seeks to end discrimination against faith-based groups. The other one that establishes faith-based centers at the Department of Agriculture and AID is not going to be signed on stage, but is signed today. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Has that already been done?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. TOWEY: I don't know. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And is it correct that this first order will allow funds to go to groups that discriminate in their hiring?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. TOWEY: He's going to sign an executive order that says faith-based organizations have -- we need those organizations, of course, to provide more services to our poor. They have a right to maintain their identity. Congress has five different approaches on hiring rights. It's very confusing. Action Ministries in Atlanta is a good example. They get funds from two different federal grants; one has hiring restrictions, one doesn't. Very confusing. The President hopes Congress clears up that muddle of laws that has been exceedingly difficult for small groups to maneuver with.

The President's executive order today, while not addressing directly hiring rights on federal grants, is going to make clear that these groups are not to be barred from participating in federal grants just because they have a religious name or religious board of directors, or governing articles, mission statements that are faith-based. He wants to see these groups able to compete, make sure they don't discriminate in terms of who they serve -- whatever your religious belief or sexual orientation, there's no discrimination on who walks through the door of a soup kitchen that's federally funded. But he also, I think, wants to make clear the Congress will continue to be addressing the issues; I'm sure they will. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q I thought the executive order included the ability of contractors to continue their religious -- hiring based on religion, a distinction from those getting grants. Is that correct?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. TOWEY: That's right. What I said was in the context of federal grants. Federal contracts will be included in the executive order. The President will make clear that religious organizations that contract on amounts of $10,000 or more are able to hire on a religious basis, consistent with Title 7 of the Civil Rights Act, that's been in place for 38 years and has worked very well. The President simply feels that this executive order will clarify that these groups keep that civil right they have when they do federal contracting. There was no effort by Congress to pull it back, and as the Chief Executive, it is within his prerogative to do this. And I think it's updating America's approach to social services.

Back when the initial executive order was issued in the '60s, there wasn't federal contracting with faith-based groups. Some might have received grants. They weren't treated as contractors. So the President simply is addressing the reality that nowadays there are some contracts that go out to faith-based groups and they should not have to alter their identity to provide a federal service.

He does stress that they have to follow federal law and federal regulation. And that means that you don't proselytize with federal funds. And that your religious activities are separate and funded separate from your federally funded services or contracted or grant wise. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q There's likely to be criticism today with groups saying that religious organizations shouldn't be getting government money if they can discriminate in hiring. What is the White House's response to that kind of criticism?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. TOWEY: Very simple. Since 1996, when President Clinton signed the first charitable choice legislation, federal groups have -- federal programs have been made available, such as welfare to work, so we're talking tens of billions of dollars -- to faith-based organizations with the express permission that they could hire with federal funds according to their religious beliefs. There aren't any horror stories and, since 1996, the programs are working well. And at no point has Congress ever repealed the Title VII exemption that has stood for 38 years to protect religious organizations' rights to hire.

So I don't think what President Bush is doing today is anything novel. And certainly, the President respects the importance of the Constitution prohibition of funding religion. The wall he wants to tear down is the wall that separates the poor from effective programs. He wants to see our drug addicts receive the best possible services. And what you'll hear today, I think, is the President cite examples of where the poor have been denied access to effective programs simply because that organization might have had a religious character. So he opposes the funding of religion; always has. This initiative is about better care for the poor. MR. FLEISCHER: I think that the burden is on the critics to explain why the Hebrew Academy, for example, should not receive funding after an earthquake. The burden on the critics is to explain why a program in Oklahoma that helps juvenile delinquents should be denied help because they are effective and they can bring help to those who have been left behind. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q Ari, is the President likely to have any comment on Trent Lott today?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Let me do this. Let's stay with faith-based for a second. If there's anything else you need, I'll take them, but you've got Jim here now. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Not going to comment on Trent Lott?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I want to reiterate, the President thought what Trent Lott said was wrong. And Trent Lott has apologized. The President feels very strongly about this. The President knows that we're a nation that has been improved as a result of the civil rights movement, the civil rights changes that were made to our country. We're a better nation. We were a worse nation when we were a segregated nation. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But does he feel strongly enough that Senator Lott shouldn't be Majority Leader?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: No, the President does not think that Trent Lott should resign. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, on the North Korean decision to restart its nuclear powerplant, is that a provocation? Does that escalate the dispute?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The statement that North Korea made, that it plans to resume the operation and construction of its nuclear facilities, is regrettable. The announcement flies in the face of international consensus that the North Korean regime must fulfill all its commitments, and in particular, dismantle its nuclear weapons program.

We seek a peaceful resolution to the situation that North Korea has created. As the President said, we have no intentions of invading North Korea. The international community has made it clear that North Korea's relations with the outside world hinge on the elimination of its nuclear weapons program. The next step is for North Korea to dismantle its nuclear weapons program in a visible and verifiable manner. We will consult with friends and allies regarding an appropriate response to this latest move by the North Korean regime.

Finally, the United States has always been open to dialogue in principle, and was prepared for a comprehensive approach to improving U.S. -North Korean relations before the disclosure of North Korea's clandestine uranium enrichment program. However, the United States will not enter into dialogue in response to threats or broken commitments, and we will not bargain or offer inducements for North Korea to live up to the treaties and agreements it has signed. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q So are you open to talks now, or does North Korea need to take some action before you have talks?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think the statement speaks for itself. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q I don't understand it, though.
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I'd refer you to the final item that I said. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q The Post story about the possible chemical weapons transfer, can you talk about whether that report was actually corroborated or not?
seen at 10:42, 12 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: To say that we have longstanding had concerns about Iraq providing weaponry to al Qaeda, and of course we know that al Qaeda is seeking -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon. Let me give you a report on the President's day. The President began this morning with an intelligence briefing. Then he was briefed by the FBI. And then, in the morning he had a meeting with the President-elect of Brazil, President-elect Lula, which was a very constructive and positive meeting from the President's point of view. The two had a very good discussion about areas of mutual interest between the United States and Brazil that focused on trade and economic relations between our two nations, and the importance of fighting hunger and poverty.

The President then departed and made a speech at the Chamber of Commerce where he focused on business strengthening America as he announced his support for a program to encourage more businesses to allow their employees to take paid time off to volunteer in their communities to bring help to those in need.

And then the President met with the Chairman of Turkey's AK party, Chairman Erdogan, to talk about regional security vis-a-vis the United States and Turkey, and a variety of issues dealing with economic conditions in Turkey and Turkey's ascension potentially into the European Union. It was a very cordial and positive meeting.

And that is the events on the President's public schedule today. I'm happy to take your questions. Ron. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q To what extent did the President talk with his Turk counterpart about either Iraq or U.S. use of military bases in Turkey?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The two did discuss the situation in Iraq. they both agreed that Iraq is a threat to peace, and the importance of Saddam Hussein disarming. They discussed the United Nations process, which is -- both recognized as a very constructive process in terms of making certain that Saddam Hussein conforms to his international obligations. We have a variety of mutual interests with Turkey as we work closely on how to address this threat.

As you know, my longstanding policy is not to get into any operational specifics. They did discuss ways that we could cooperate, and I leave it at that. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q Ari, on the SEC, what did Mr. Donaldson have in the President's view that Harvey Pitt didn't have?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the President -- and I'm not going to do this as a comparison because the President doesn't make appointments on the basis of comparison. The President makes appointments on the basis of the qualities of the people that he appoints at this moment. And the President, as he said, believes that Mr. Donaldson's long experience, his record in dealing both in the private sector and in academia, makes him very qualified to be chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. He's widely respected by people in both parties as a man of outstanding integrity, and the President was very pleased to appoint him. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q You would concede that you've got an agency in trouble here. I mean, the SEC is not clipping along the way I'm sure the President would like it to. So what's his biggest challenge?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, actually, I think the Securities and Exchange Commission is performing very ably on behalf of the American people. That when you take a look at the substantive -- the actions that they've taken in terms of the record enforcement decisions they have made, the amount of disgorging or taking money back from corporate executives who were defrauding their investors, it's very positive and very encouraging. It's the signs of an agency that is doing the people's business. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But then why have -- you had two high-profile resignations. Do you really think the American people buy the idea that the SEC is humming along the way it's intended to?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think when people look at the track record of the Securities and Exchange Commission, they do see those results. I think a change has been made at the helm. This new leader, the President believes, is going to be able to carry out the mission of the Securities and Exchange Commission with ability and with confidence. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Right, the President said that.
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Right. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But what I'm asking you is, what's the biggest challenge that Mr. Donaldson, if confirmed, faces?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The biggest challenge is exactly as the President has outlined it, which is to restore investor confidence. And I think that investor confidence when they see just what the Securities and Exchange Commission is doing, just what the Attorney General's office is doing, or the Department of Justice is doing, in terms of taking action against corporate wrongdoers, it does give investors more confidence. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Just one more on this, Air?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: David, go ahead, and last question. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Just the question about funding. The President announced more funding for the SEC. There's ...
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Just the question about funding. The President announced more funding for the SEC. There's been some criticism in the past, recent past, from Democrats about the White House holding back on what was originally called for in the Sarbanes bill. Why a decision now to give more money? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q You said cooperative and agreed to cooperate and so forth in terms of the talks with Turkey. Does that mean that Turkey has agreed to allow the U.S. to use Turkish soil to bomb Iraq?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: No, I said nothing about any outcome of that nature. It would not be in my position to describe anything -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Your said the meeting was very positive --
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: It was. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And that's what we're asking.
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: That's correct. But I would not say anything more concrete than that. It is not my place to report for other nations. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q You didn't. But I'm asking you, is this what you mean?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: And I'm not answering the question, Helen. (Laughter.) It was a positive meeting. And I don't want you to read into that. But the fact of the matter is -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q -- positive, and agreed to cooperate. We know why --
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Because I'm not giving you the specificity of what cooperation means in that context. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Wasn't he invited here to twist his arm?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I know you have seen diplomatic relations for many years, but often countries look at issues and want to work together because they have mutual agreement about policy. Do not presume that I am indicating what Turkey may or may not do. That is for Turkey, a sovereign government, to decide. And I give you no inclination one way or another about any future decisions that Turkey may or may not make.

But certainly, the President makes very clear in his meetings the threat that he believes the world faces from Saddam Hussein. And the President also believes very strongly that the stronger the world is, the greater the chance of averting war, because Saddam Hussein will indeed react to that strength of pressure to disarm. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q -- for 11 years they have done nothing. What is this threat?
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, except for develop weapons of mass destruction, hide them from inspectors and full the world. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q -- many countries --
seen at 14:13, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, not every country has invaded their neighbors the way Iraq has. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q I wanted to ask you about the new proposed regulations for pension plans
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q I wanted to ask you about the new proposed regulations for pension plans. Critics are saying that this could open up the flood gates for a lot more companies to convert to plans that they say are unfair to older workers. What does the White House say about that? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But, again, there are criticisms that you're going to open up the flood gates for a lot more companies...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q But, again, there are criticisms that you're going to open up the flood gates for a lot more companies to convert to these plans, which people say -- some people say are unfair to older workers; not necessarily constitute age discrimination in every case, but they're unfair. What's your position on these plans? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Now that you've taken on the role of an actuary, can I just ask you, basically what was the goal of the White House in releasing these proposed new regulations?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think that the rules, as they always are when it comes to matters of pensions, are complicated rules, and that's the description of the rules, as they read. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q I understand, but what was your goal in releasing the new regulations?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, these are the rules the Treasury Department has announced today, and just to make certain that people can have pensions and that the pension rights of individuals are protected. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Last Friday, Ari, I asked you about Senator Lott's comments, saying he ...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Last Friday, Ari, I asked you about Senator Lott's comments, saying he was proud of Mississippi for supporting Strom Thurmond's 1948 racial segregationist, white supremacist presidential campaign. You ducked that question. Can you tell us now whether the President agreed with Vice President Gore that that was a racist statement? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Can you tell us now whether or not --
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think that from the President's point of view, Senator Lott has addressed this issue. He has apologized for this statement, and the President understands that that is the final word from Senator Lott in terms of the fact that he said something and has apologized for it. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Senator Lott's final word was that the policies that Strom Thurmond supported have been discarded...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Senator Lott's final word was that the policies that Strom Thurmond supported have been discarded, that they're discarded policies. He didn't say they were immoral, he didn't say they were wrong, he simply said they were discarded. Does the President believe that Senator Lott, given this most recent action and given the fact that he published a regular column in a newsletter for years of the Conservative Citizens Council, an openly white supremacist group, is the best person to lead the Republican Party in the United States Senate? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q So the President thinks that this matter should be --
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I just think, from the President's point of view, all Americans should take great pride in the fact that we are changed society since 1948; tremendous strides and changes and improvements have been made in the way we treat fellow Americans in the terms of race and equality. And the President looks at the history of our nation as one that -- we were a nation that needed to change. The changes that were brought by the civil rights community were healthy, constructive changes that have made us a stronger and a richer and a better society. And I speak for the President. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And he's confident that Senator Lott, given this comment and given his history, embraces those changes sufficiently to be the Republican leader of the United States Senate?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The President has confidence in him as Republican leader, unquestionably. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Back on Turkey, does the President think the EU is treating Turkey fairly on these accession talks?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, this is a matter for the -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q --
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: This is a matter for the EU, in final form, to make its judgments. The President does believe that the European Union should give strong consideration to Turkey's accession into the EU. He thinks it's very important that the EU give consideration to a nation like Turkey, an Islamic democracy, an emerging country that certainly has made tremendous strides in terms of integration into Europe, and to an approach that is compatible with the transparency and the openness of Europe. So this is something that the President feels strongly about. He raised it at numerous meetings with European officials directly, and he has talked to Turkish officials about it, as well. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But Mr. Erdogan doesn't feel like he's being treated properly by the EU. Does the President agree with that?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I think, again, this is matter that the European Union will listen to a variety of nations on. The President differs strongly with anybody in Europe who has suggested that because of Turkey's background, Turkey would not qualify. The President does not think that that should be a disqualification. So the President has expressed this in many of the meetings that I've sat in on with European Union leaders. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And what sort of economic package are you putting together for Turkey?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, as always, the United States has been a longstanding friend of Turkey. And we continue to be a good friend of Turkey. And Congress has worked with many previous White Houses, including this one, on aid for Turkey, and we will continue to work with Turkey and the Congress on the size of an appropriate package. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Yes, on Mr. Erdogan -- the administration has been very clear in the past few months that it...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Yes, on Mr. Erdogan -- the administration has been very clear in the past few months that it is concerned about Turkey moving into that adjoining section of Iraq, should there be regime change in Iraq, and that it's very important to you to keep them out of that Kurdish territory. At the end of this meeting now, what is the American understanding about Turkey intentions there? And is there an understanding that Turkey would stay up within its -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And did the President make that point today again?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: He did. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q He did. And what kind of response did he get?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: It's not my position to characterize a response of other nations. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Could you say whether or not Turkey and the United States are in agreement right now with Iraq under all circumstances needs to remain whole and unified?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, I think it's not my position to characterize the response of other nations, but I will answer, broadly speaking, I think it was a very positive meeting. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, I'm not asking you to tell us about the response, I'm asking you whether you are convinced now that you and your significant ally here are in agreement on the broad principle of a unified and whole Iraq.
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The only way to describe whether it was a broad agreement would be two people agreeing, and that would mean I would be commenting on one person's point of view and expressing it for a meaning. And I'm just not at liberty to go into that. I think that's a question you can ask Turkish officials, and I'm sure they'll be more than happy to inform you. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Is the White House worried about the situation in Venezuela? There seems...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Is the White House worried about the situation in Venezuela? There seems to be deteriorating -- Venezuela is probably, I think, the fifth oil supply in the world, one of the main suppliers of oil to the United States. Is the White House worried about the situation there? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And I have a second question. The meeting that the President held today
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q And I have a second question. The meeting that the President held today with President Lula, President-elect of Brazil, besides discussing Brazil, did they discuss the dire situation in Argentina, which is Brazil's neighbor and Brazil's main trading partner? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, Iraq accused the U.S. of "unprecedented blackmail" in obtaining the declaration...
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Q Ari, Iraq accused the U.S. of "unprecedented blackmail" in obtaining the declaration of weapons of mass destruction. And they say, "America aims to manipulate the U.N. documents to find a cover for aggression against Iraq." ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Any thoughts on CSX not paying any taxes in the past -- three of the past four years?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The President is very confident that all the investigation that is relevant on this issue has been looked at thoroughly and fully, and that the Senate will take a look at all this as well, and that his nominee will be confirmed as all these issues are looked at. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But on that issue itself, on what they have done.
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MR. FLEISCHER: I am not the accountant in this matter, and so I can give you the prospective of what the President views, in terms of this nominee. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q So the President -- the White House knew about that, and decided it was not an issue?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I have not been provided every piece of information that, of course, has been looked at with every nominee. As you can imagine, nominees have a considerable amount of information. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But it doesn't sound like it was a surprise to you.
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MR. FLEISCHER: I think, again, the President knows about his nominee and is confident in his nominee. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q On Iraq, can you tell us where we are in the evaluation process, what the administration is doing to pore over these thousands of pages from Iraq, how you're approaching this task?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The United States government is carefully reading through the declaration that Iraq has sent. It is voluminous. Much of it is in Arabic, and there are a team of translators, a team of government officials are looking at the information, making their way through it very carefully. Experts who are versed in the particular areas that have been released are dedicating themselves to the area of their expertise as the report is divided up within the intelligence community.

They are just in the beginning of that process. I anticipate this is a process that is going to take some considerable period of time. And this process will be thoughtful, it will be deliberative, and it will be careful. It will be careful to make certain that we thoroughly and completely understand what it is that Iraq is purporting to declare, as well as what they have failed to declare in this rather large document. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q So you think it will be several more days before you have any sort of judgment about the extent to which they're being genuine?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think that's a very good possibility. And I hesitate to guess how many several more days. Whatever the proper period of time is that it will take will be the proper time that it takes, because it's important to have a careful and through understanding of what Iraq is saying, and that way we can judge it in its entirety. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, does that mean that you're not going to release any preliminary, step-by-step reaction? Is there anything --
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: No, I really don't anticipate any step-by- step reactions to it. That's why I said that we want to take a look at this in its entirety and see what it is that has been declared by Iraq, as well as to understand what may be not included in this document. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q On an entirely unrelated subject, your old home town is faced with a transit strike next week --
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Pound Ridge? Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q You know what I mean. I think of you as, you know, Bronx. Maybe that's a mistake, but that's how I think of you. You know, Bernie Williams' home town, for example.
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Yes. I think he lives in Northern Jersey now, but -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q -- is faced with a transit strike, which would be illegal. Would the federal government take any role? Does the President have anything to say about the people involved in negotiating that?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Yes, I have not had any information provided to me on the topic of potential action up in New York. I have personally noted the reports, but I have not heard anything from the federal government. If there is anything we have on it, I'll try to share it with you. But I have not looked into that yet. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Another question about the Snow nomination. Apparently during his tenure...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Another question about the Snow nomination. Apparently during his tenure at CSX he was loaned something in excess of $24 million by the company in order to make purchases of company stock, and when the price of that stock went down instead of up, the loans were forgiven. Does that undermine his credibility as a spokesman for corporate reform? That practice, of course, would now be illegal under the Oxley-Sarbanes bill. Does the fact that he has that in his background undermine his credibility? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Is the President aware of this?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Yes. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q --
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MR. FLEISCHER: That's correct. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Is that tantamount to the endorsement? In other words, if this were within the purview of the U.N., if Turkey were looking for something from the U.N. --
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I said it the way I said it for a reason. That's the President -- how the President approaches it. That's the President's belief that it's a matter of protocol. Because it is not the United States' judgment to make in the final analysis, but the United States' thoughts and opinions. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, the President is going to be speaking in Philadelphia on faith-based...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, the President is going to be speaking in Philadelphia on faith-based on Thursday. Does he anticipate sending up the same legislation that they've been worked out in the Senate again? Or is there some reworking of that? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, earlier this week, the states and some communities turned in their...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, earlier this week, the states and some communities turned in their smallpox recommendations, their plans, if you will, how imminent a threat is a smallpox outbreak at this point in the United States? And who would be the potential perpetrator of a threat in the opinion of the White House? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Do you think that he has come to a conclusion?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think when the President does come to a conclusion he'll be in a position to share it. And this is an issue that he has weighed very carefully, heard from a great many sides about because the sides involve science. And the best guess is about science and how to protect the American people, given the fact that whatever dosage of smallpox vaccine is decided upon, there is scientifically the basis for side-effects in a very small percentage of people who receive the inoculation. Very small -- nevertheless, that is the scientific advice or information that there would, indeed, be side-effects for some. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q A short time ago the House Democrats emerged from their economic summit...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q A short time ago the House Democrats emerged from their economic summit and said they would soon put forth a short-term stimulus package. Details haven't been worked out, but I can assure you it will not include making permanent last year's tax cuts. Is that a non-starter point for the administration at this moment? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q One is a question on taxes and whether the President is considering looking at the taxes on airlines...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q One is a question on taxes and whether the President is considering looking at the taxes on airlines, particularly airline passengers, which take up a significant part of the ticket price -- and airlines are now saying that that would screw the airline industry. Is that -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And, secondly, yesterday you talked about that it was not a disqualifying matter in terms of the...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q And, secondly, yesterday you talked about that it was not a disqualifying matter in terms of the Augusta Country Club. Would it make a difference if Augusta Country Club disqualified or didn't allow people on racial or ethnic basis? Would that be different for a Cabinet Secretary? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, you mentioned the faith-based issue will come up on Thursday. What...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, you mentioned the faith-based issue will come up on Thursday. What other areas of the domestic agenda does the President see that were not addressed during the last session? And is he going to be discussing old initiatives, or will there be new initiatives? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Is he going to come up with a different drug plan, or is he going to stick with what he's proposed thus far?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not going to get into specifics about something the President might want to indicate later. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, former President Carter in his acceptance speech of the Nobel Peace Award today...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, former President Carter in his acceptance speech of the Nobel Peace Award today used the occasion to call on Iraq to disarm, to comply with U.N. resolutions. But he also suggested the United States needs to be ready to take "yes" for an answer, and not only as far as Saddam concerned, but also lifting the sanctions. Does the President have a response to the former President's remarks? Did he see them? Was he briefed on them in any way? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Did the President tune into the former President's remarks? Was he briefed on them in any way? Did he have any further response?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I don't know off the top of my head. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, what exactly happened in the United Nations regarding the release of these documents? Syria is very upset. Was somebody stabbed in the back here?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think the United Nations set up a process that was very transparent and the United Nations officials talked about it. There was a statement issued by the Secretary General of the United Nations, walking through the process of how to disseminate the documents. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q As far as democratic tax cut ideas, is the welcome mat also extended to a tax holiday?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: You've asked me this before, there's really no change in my answer from this two days ago. Again, the President wants to work with members of Congress and focus on people's ideas. And I'm not going to get into every level of specifics about what the President may or may not do. The issue with the payroll taxes, of course, is the solvency of the Social Security trust fund depends on the payroll taxes going into the system. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But there was an argument being made that rather than make the tax cut permanent -- which, as you know, would take effect many years from now -- the money could better be spent on payroll tax cut.
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Make no mistake, opposing the tax cut, which is now law of the land, opposing making the tax cut permanent means very simple things to the American people. Those who oppose making the tax cut permanent favor reimposing a marriage penalty on people. They favor taking away people's $1,000 child tax credits. They favor reimposing the death tax on people. And they favor creating higher rates on the American people than the American people have been told that they will be able to rely on and count on.

So this language that some people want to use to hide their tax hike fever is nothing other than an excuse for the fact that they don't want to face up to the fact that the consequences of that policy would be reimposition of the marriage penalty, would be taking away people's $1,000 child credits, and making people pay higher rates than they were promised. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q Back on Turkey, can you describe what effort the President has made in...
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Back on Turkey, can you describe what effort the President has made in recent days to talk to EU leaders about Turkey's possible entry? And you'd said you'd sat in on some meetings where that was raised. Could you describe that in a little more detail? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q -- and can you describe in a little more detail exactly how he presented his point of view?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, off the top of my head, I don't remember each of the summits that the President had, but he had several. And it came up, as I recall, in virtually all of those meetings with the European leaders. And it's something that Secretary Powell has been working the phones about, as well. And it's something I just don't recall off the top of my head what other calls the President has made in the last couple weeks. But suffice it to say the President is personally involved, because the President thinks it is important that the European Union give consideration to Turkey's accession. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But has he made any kind of offer to the Europeans, or a threat? How has he presented the U.S. position to Turkey's accession?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: On the basis of logic and diplomacy. I mean, it's the same spirit in which, for example, NATO was expanded -- because it was good for Europe, it was good for NATO and it was good for the nations that were expanded into NATO. Similar with Turkey, the President believes that when you look at the merits, when you look at the criteria, when you look at the judgments of the evaluations that are made in terms of whether or not a nation is ready for membership in the EU, the President's judgment is that the EU should give serious consideration to Turkey. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, I wanted to revisit the issue in terms of how the President views Islam
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, I wanted to revisit the issue in terms of how the President views Islam. I know you've taken a number of questions on that, and the President has made several statements. Beyond the statements that you and the President have made, I'm wondering if you can tell us on what basis does the President believe that, in fact, Islam is peaceful? How has he arrived at that conclusion? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q There are a number of Jewish and Christian not only scholars, but other religious leaders who do cite passages that they deem as troubling in the Koran, for example, that would seem to incite Muslim violence --
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MR. FLEISCHER: I think there's no -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q -- against non-Muslims. Is the President aware of those passages?
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MR. FLEISCHER: You can -- I think you can read virtually every text in every faith and find something in there, a sentence or two that could be twisted into an interpretation that there somehow is something in someone's faith that doesn't preach peace. And that is not the President's approach. And he's very, very proud of it, because that's the spirit of our country. That's why we are such a strong and great country -- we're a tolerant and open country. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Can I follow up on that, Ari?
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MR. FLEISCHER: Go ahead. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q On Mr. Lula visiting the President -- he said after the meeting that...
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Q On Mr. Lula visiting the President -- he said after the meeting that these two have difference on the free trade area of the Americas. And you said they talked about general economics. Can you be more specific? What were the discussion about a free trade area of the Americas? And did the President present any plan to resolve the difference with Brazil, especially on the agricultural sector? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Mr. Fleischer, did the President discuss today with the Turkish leader, Mr. Erdogan, the Cyprus issue, since this is related with the EU issue?
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MR. FLEISCHER: No, that topic did not come up. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Follow on Islam, just for a moment. Has the President broken with his friends, Franklin Graham and Pat Robertson because of this situation? Has he spoken to them directly?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Connie, I can only describe to you what the President feels in his heart and what he speaks and what he is proud to say. I don't say it in reference to what anybody else may or may not say. My job is to characterize to you accurately, and I hope with a little feeling today, about what the President thinks, because I think it's really important that you understand the depth to which the President, as a man of faith himself, believes in what he says when he talks about Islam being a religion of peace. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Okay, Ari, given the rise in unemployment figures and the general skittishness about the economy, would the President like to see Congress revisit an extension of unemployment insurance?
seen at 14:12, 10 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: That is a topic that the President has never ruled out. The President was disappointed, of course, that Congress was unable to get an agreement on unemployment insurance in the last days of the Congress this year. Particularly given the fact that the unemployment extension will go through December -- approximately 28th, the President was particularly disappointed that Congress didn't get the job done. Nevertheless, as I indicated, we're looking forward to a topic the President has not ruled out. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer
seen at 14:41, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon. Let me give you a report on the President's day, and then I have a statement by the President I'd like to read to you.

The President began this morning with a call to President Putin of Russia. President Putin has just returned from a trip he has taken to China, India and Kyrgyzstan. The two of them discussed the situation on the Korean Peninsula and the importance of North Korea making certain that they comply with the international community in a denuclearized Korean Peninsula. And the two discussed the importance of continuing our joint efforts to make that the case.

Then the President had his usual intelligence briefings, followed up by an FBI briefing and a National Security Council meeting.

And then later this afternoon, the President will depart to the United States Trade Representatives Office to make remarks on the 40th anniversary of the Trade Representatives Office. The President believes that free trade is a key part of making sure America's economy continues its recovery, and he looks forward to meeting with the workers at the USTR's office.

And then finally today, the President looks forward to celebrating in a birthday reception for Senator Strom Thurmond on the occasion of his 100th birthday.

Now I'd like to read to you a statement by the President:

"My economic team has worked with me to craft an economic agenda to help lead the nation out of recession and back into a period of growth.

"I appreciate Paul O'Neill and Larry Lindsey's important contributions to making this happen. Both are highly talented and dedicated, and they have served my administration and nation well. I thank them for their excellent service."

That's a statement by the President that will be distributed to you. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q Why are they leaving?
seen at 14:41, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: They have each announced that they will resign, Helen. Both will be resigning to pursue other endeavors. Larry Lindsey has indicated that he looks forward to returning to the private sector. And Secretary O'Neill will pursue his interests, and a more personal front, he indicated when he left ALCOA, back when he came into the administration, that he planned to retire and devote himself to improving health care and education in Pittsburgh, and he looks forward to engaging in that endeavor. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Did they call the President and submit their resignations last night?
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MR. FLEISCHER: This transpired this morning. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Does the President believe that changing the top leaders of his economic team can give the economy the kind of kick-start that he's looking for?
seen at 14:41, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: You know, the President, as I mentioned, appreciates the service that his advisors have given. The economy has gotten the boost in the recovery since this team and since President Bush took office. The President looks forward to announcing new names of people who will continue the administration's efforts to give the economy increased impetus to grow as we work with Congress on that. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Certainly he has said on more than one occasion that the economy is still bumping along and that...
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Q Certainly he has said on more than one occasion that the economy is still bumping along and that he is not satisfied with the pace of growth. So does he believe the change in the economic team will increase the pace of growth to a level that he's satisfied with? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Today's unemployment report, did that factor into the decision today?
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MR. FLEISCHER: No, it did not. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Let me ask about Iraq, if I can, and the declaration we're going to be ...
seen at 14:41, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Let me ask about Iraq, if I can, and the declaration we're going to be getting supposedly tomorrow. U.N. officials have been telling us that they're expecting something that could run to thousands of pages, likely is going to be in Arabic, and it may well take weeks to digest, to translate. Is that acceptable to the administration, taking weeks to deal with something like that? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Is there no fear that, perhaps by loading it up with lots of detail and leaving it in Arabic that they're playing for time?
seen at 14:41, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I don't think the language is going to be a particular impediment. It has to be translated; there are translators who do these types of things. I think that one of -- sometimes, one of the best ways to hide or to deceive is to come out with such a voluminous document that it makes people miss the things that aren't in there. You know, another way I put that is, just because Iraq turns over a phone book to the United Nations doesn't mean that nobody inside Iraq has an unlisted phone number.

And so there would be a variety of things that we want to find out about and whether or not Iraq has left information out of here. So we won't be fooled by the size of this document into thinking that the size alone dictates that Iraq has complied. We want to make certain that Iraq is listing everything they have obligation to list, full, accurate and complete, so the world knows that Saddam Hussein is serious about disarmament. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q Ari, can you discuss a little bit the reasoning behind the goal of enlisting inspectors' help ...
seen at 14:41, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, can you discuss a little bit the reasoning behind the goal of enlisting inspectors' help in getting weapons scientists out of Iraq to help us locate other weapons? And what sort of commitment the administration may be prepared to make along the lines of asylum, witness protection programs, what are we talking about here? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Can you amplify at all on what might be done to secure their asylum and their protection in this...
seen at 14:41, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Can you amplify at all on what might be done to secure their asylum and their protection in this country? I mean, is it -- there may not be a final decision. As you said this morning, modalities might have to be worked out. But is it at least in the discussion phase, this notion of protecting them along the lines the way you protect informers in mob cases in this country? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Just one more on this. You don't want to utter the words "witness protection program," but there...
seen at 14:41, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Just one more on this. You don't want to utter the words "witness protection program," but there is a commitment by this government to protect those Iraqis who are willing to give the international community information that would lead to the ultimate disarmament of Saddam? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And are we dangling U.S. citizenship as a carrot?
seen at 14:41, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Terry. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, back on the O'Neill and Lindsey resignations, is there any connection between these resignations?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think that each resigned for their own reasons and -- just leave it at that, each has resigned for their own reasons. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q So is it a coincidence that they resigned on the exact same day?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Terry, I think it's abundantly clear to everybody who has covered White Houses that you know that people in government service do not stay in government service for their entire portion of Presidential terms. I think the last time you'd have to find a President who had every single person stay in his administration goes back to President Franklin Pearce, in the mid-1800s.

I think this administration, much more so than any modern Presidency, has a stability in the number of its Cabinet Secretaries. People always are free in government service to take a look at their service and make their personal decisions. The President has respected their service and is grateful to their service. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q So your position is there's no coordination or connection between these resignations?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I've simply indicated to you that the President is, as I said, very grateful for their service. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Can I ask you, should Americans, on the day that unemployment goes to 6 percent and on the day...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Can I ask you, should Americans, on the day that unemployment goes to 6 percent and on the day that these two major resignations, this shakeup of the President's economic team comes, see it as a sign of uncertainty, lack of confidence, lack of direction in the administration's economic policy? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q So the resignation of the Treasury Secretary and the President's chief economic advisor on the same day shouldn't shake anybody's confidence in the direction and certainly the administration?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think people recognize that respected leaders like Paul O'Neill and Larry Lindsey come into government service to perform their duties on behalf of a grateful President and a grateful nation and they are free to pursue other endeavors, too. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Today, close to 1 billion Muslims celebrate Eid, the festival. The President...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Today, close to 1 billion Muslims celebrate Eid, the festival. The President arrived yesterday at the Islamic Center, where he made several statements, of course, about no doubt that Islam is a religion of peace. But most of the terrorist activities were involved by the Muslims. So today, other than what he said on the Eid and about Ramadan, what message would be to the nations who are supporting, harboring and assisting the terrorists against the United States and victims are basically, Islam one side, Hindus, Muslims -- Hindus, Christians and Jews. So what would be the future -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Can I just follow? President Putin was in India and both Indian Prime...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Can I just follow? President Putin was in India and both Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, and Putin both made a joint statement, and they are saying, calling on Pakistan to stop incursions into Pakistan. And also at the same time, they said that United States military action in Iraq will not solve the problem. So where do you put these two leaders and countries as far as support -- Pakistan's support of India's terrorism and Iraq's -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, back on the resignations, is it the President's hope, when he appoints...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, back on the resignations, is it the President's hope, when he appoints a new Treasury Secretary and a new head of the National Economic Council, that the Treasury -- that these two institutions will move more to the center of both foreign and domestic policymaking than they have been? I think there was a widespread sense, even within the institutions themselves, that they were more there in the 1990s at the center of the table than they are today? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And why announce the resignations before you have the new members ready to go, since these do not appear to have been entirely voluntary resignations?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The resignations were announced, as you know, this morning by the Secretary of the Treasury and by Mr. Lindsey, and they speak for themselves. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, just to be clear on this, did President Bush ask either O'Neill or Lindsey to resign? Or did he request anybody else to ask for them to resign?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I've answered it as directly as I can. The individuals resigned, as you know. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Is that a yes or a no?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The individuals resigned, as you know. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q So are you denying that they were asked to resign?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I've answered the question and that's what I intend to say about it. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Actually, you haven't answered the question. (Laughter.)
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The individuals, as you know, have resigned. And the President appreciates their service to the country and the work that they did in terms of the tax cut that got passed into law; terrorism insurance has been enacted into law; the trade legislation that is now law of the land, the President is very grateful for their service to our country. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But he did not ask them to resign? You're saying he did not ask them to resign or --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: You asked the question just minutes ago. The answer remains the same. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q I want to follow on Terry's question, which basically is the question that most everyone is asking now. Is it a coincidence that the President's two most senior economic policy advisors offered their resignations on the same day?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I don't think that was a follow to Terry's question; that was a carbon copy of it. (Laughter.) Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Let me ask it again --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I would give you the carbon copy of my answer to Terry's question. (Laughter.) Just because you ask it twice doesn't mean I will answer it differently the second time. The answer is the same. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Did the President talk at all --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm sorry? Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Did the President talk at all with either of the two men this morning?
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MR. FLEISCHER: Yes, I'm checking to take a look at that. I don't have an answer at this time. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Do you know, did they reach out to him or did he talk with them or --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: That's what I'm -- that came up this morning and I'm checking on it. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q What about the Vice President?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm checking. I didn't ask that question, though, David. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Do you know, had there been prior to this morning -- you said events transpired this morning. ...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Do you know, had there been prior to this morning -- you said events transpired this morning. Had there been an ongoing series of conversations about their status back and forth with the President? And had they indicated prior to today that either or both of them might be thinking about leaving? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Would you expect, I mean with them gone now, that we can anticipate a change in direction in terms of policy, or are we going to see more of the same policies that have been in place and are currently --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The policies that the President seeks are the policies that the President sets. And those policies include pursuing policies of low taxation, making the tax cuts permanent, providing a stimulus to the economy, energy independence. And you can expect that next year the President will return to many of these same issues that were not addressed by the Congress in the last session. He hopes that the Congress will take a look at these ideas with fresh eyes next year. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Two questions on two different subjects. First of all, regarding Iraqi...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Two questions on two different subjects. First of all, regarding Iraqi scientists, you made it clear this morning that you expect, the United States expects the U.N. inspectors to take full advantage of that provision in the resolution allowing for interviews outside the country.

What about a situation in which there is someone who the United States believes, or the U.N. believes, does have material knowledge of this issue but is unwilling to be interviewed by -- does the United States believe that they should be forced, that the U.N. should attempt to, you know, in effect, involuntarily take these people outside -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q What about a situation in which someone is not willing to come forward -- do you believe they should be --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I can't speak -- I can't speak to all scenarios. Obviously, if somebody is willing to leave the country, it's a much easier matter, a rather straight and plain forward. I can't speak to any scenarios about somebody who might not. That's why I said these modalities are often worked out by the United Nations on the ground. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Another question, on the --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: You only get two. We're going to try to come back because -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q No, no, no. I said I had two questions on two different subjects.
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: But you've taken two. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q No, no, that was a follow-up. On the Putin phone call --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm in a giving mood to you today, Ken. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q -- the only subject you mentioned was North Korea. Is that the only subject they discussed, was North Korea?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: That was the heart of their discussion, yes. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Did they discuss Iraq at all?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: No, it did not come up, as I was informed about the phone call. And they very briefly did talk about India-Pakistan, because President Putin was in Pakistan. That came up very briefly as part of the phone call. But other than that -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Who initiated the phone call?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I don't know who initiated this one, if it was reaching out to each other, et cetera. I said he was in Pakistan, I meant to say he was in India. That's what I said at the top. He was in India. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q How long was the phone call?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Fourteen minutes. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Just to follow on Greg's question a little bit, Lindsey was intimately involved in crafting the stimulus package. Does his departure affect in any way the President's intention to propose a stimulus package?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: No, the President continues, as I indicated last week, to review the economic data, to make a determination about what steps are necessary to keep the economy moving so we can continue to move from recession into higher growth. The President will review that data and make a determination as he sees necessary. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And also, similarly, O'Neill was probably the most forceful advocate in the administration for...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q And also, similarly, O'Neill was probably the most forceful advocate in the administration for tax reform. He also was supposed to issue some recommendations on that issue early next year. Does his departure change the schedule or intention on that subject? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q And did the President ask either of them to stay?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Answer is the same as when Suzanne asked it. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q The administration has told a number of news organizations that the President asked for the resignations. So is there someone in the administration who is putting out bad information? We need to know for news reporting purposes.
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Yes, that's a very clever way of asking Suzanne's question parlayed off of Keith's question into a new bank shot. The answer remains the same. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, I have a question and a follow-up. Both the President and the Secretary of Defense say that...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, I have a question and a follow-up. Both the President and the Secretary of Defense say that there is hard evidence -- my word, not theirs -- that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. There is growing criticism that it's not enough just to say it, that you've got to release the evidence so the world can see that -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Well, it's coming by a former congressman and some world leaders and some others.
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Anybody you care to name? Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q It's a long list, I'm afraid, but I'll supply you with it if you'd like.
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: But nobody off the top of your head? Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Lee Hamilton, yes. Anyway, if that bothers you, strike that, I'll just go
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Lee Hamilton, yes. Anyway, if that bothers you, strike that, I'll just go back and ask it at the time. The President and the Secretary of Defense say there's hard evidence that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction. When will that evidence be released? Once this white paper from Saddam is gone over, or when? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Let me do my follow-up, if I may. The follow-up, if I want to go back to the Pentagon alive, ...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Let me do my follow-up, if I may. The follow-up, if I want to go back to the Pentagon alive, I've got to ask you this question. The Army-Navy game is tomorrow. The President went last year, he's not going this year. The question is, which side does the Commander-in-Chief favor? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q How do you react to reporting that this was timed for after the mid-term elections. I mean, this is the biggest shakeup --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: The Army-Navy game? (Laughter.) Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q No, the resignations this morning. This is the biggest shakeup of this entire administration. Can you give us any tick-tock as to how long you've known about this, how long it's been in the works?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, again, I think that everybody recognizes that public service is a very noble endeavor and people choose to exercise that desire to be in public service for a period of time of their choosing. This morning, each of them made their announcements about the resignation. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Did those come as bolts from the blue to the President? Or did he have some indication that this was going to happen?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, the President understands that there is always the potential for people to decide that their tenure in government has come to an end and they made their decision and their resignations. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q So they decided. You said, "for people to decide." So it was their decision?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I indicated that they have resigned. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, markets responded very positively today to the news that Treasury Secretary O'Neill and Larry...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, markets responded very positively today to the news that Treasury Secretary O'Neill and Larry Lindsey were stepping down. Is market confidence at all a factor in their decision to leave the White House, given the administration's concern about the stock market at this point? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Do you believe that Treasury Secretary O'Neill and Dr. Lindsey had the confidence of the marketplace? Because, as you said, you are looking for individuals to replace them who have that respect?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I would refer you again to what I said at the beginning. You have a statement from the President about their service to our nation. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, related to that, would you say that the President regrets the resignation of these two individuals? Larry Lindsey was with him all through the campaign, O'Neill was brought to him through Dick Cheney.
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: You have the statement from the President. And as I've indicated -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Would you indicate that he regrets that they have had to leave --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, the President understands that people make sacrifices to come into government in terms of their families, in terms of the hours worked, in terms of the demands imposed and the difficulties of the job. And the President respects the decisions that people make and, in this case, the decisions to resign. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Considering the importance of the Treasury Cabinet post, is the President -- his ambition is to have someone confirmed by the Senate, maybe

by mid-January, soon after the Senate gets back?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.

MR. FLEISCHER: Yes, I wouldn't try to guess the timing of anything of that nature. Again, there will be announcements about successors, of course, and I won't predict to you what the timing of that will be. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But considering the importance of the position, you don't want to say that the President hopes to have someone in that position as soon as possible?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I just never put an artificial deadline on any appointment, no matter how important the appointment is. And these, of course, are going to be important appointments. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, on Monday, former President George Bush is going to participate in...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, on Monday, former President George Bush is going to participate in a ceremony on the 10th anniversary of signing of NAFTA. And he's going to be seated with the former President of Mexico, Carlos Salinas de Gortari. Is there any worry by the President that he -- his father will be sending the wrong message to Mexicans, where more than 90 percent of Mexicans believe that Carlos Salinas was one of the most corrupted Presidents of Mexico? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q How about the PTech raid in Boston? Could you talk about what, if any...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q How about the PTech raid in Boston? Could you talk about what, if any, role the White House had in overseeing this or even being involved in it? And also are you completely assured that there's no problems with any of the software that this company -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Who are they talking about -- a cyber office here or --
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think it's more some of the experts in technology and software, things of that nature. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, given how common resignations could be, I wonder if the White House expects any others in the economic arena? Glenn Hubbard or Mitch Daniels, are they all secure?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, I'm just not in a position to speculate about the future of White Houses, as you know. I'll just go back to what I said, the President is very gratified by the service of all who are in this administration. It has been compared to the history of a very, very stable White House. But, certainly there will come times when people who have made the sacrifice of entering into government service will make the decisions to leave and pursue other endeavors. And the President is grateful and recognizes that fact. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, the White House has taken somewhat of a standoffish attitude toward the imminent bankruptcy...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, the White House has taken somewhat of a standoffish attitude toward the imminent bankruptcy of United Airlines. And I was wondering, with the new economic team coming in, will they be looking at problems like this collapse of a large chunk of our transportation grid? And also we have, going into 2003, AMTRAK is also facing a possible bankruptcy -- will they look at these with new eyes? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, you'll be surprised -- I know the President is already getting a lot of advise about who ...
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, you'll be surprised -- I know the President is already getting a lot of advise about who to fill these jobs. Steve Forbes is reportedly recommending two Texans, Bill Archer and Phil Gramm, for the Treasury Secretary slot. What's the President going to be looking for, for both the Treasury Secretary and the Lindsey job? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Will he be consulting with the Hill or Wall Street? Or who will he be talking to?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I think he'll -- the usual way personnel works is the President, who has pretty strong ideas about what he likes to see in his top staff, will work with his personnel office, with his Chief of Staff, and make determinations. And the President will make the final conclusions, of course. The Vice President is often a part of that process. And that's how I think you can see it play forward. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, has the President made any calls or talked to anybody to try to assure the markets in this interim period?
seen at 14:40, 6 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think that the markets before have seen people come into government service and decide to leave government service and return to the private sector or to other endeavors. This is not new to the markets, that markets need assurance in that sense. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Briefly, you said the President is going to celebrate Strom Thurmond's ...
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Q Briefly, you said the President is going to celebrate Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday. Yesterday, Senator Lott, the incoming Senate Majority Leader, said he was proud that Mississippi had supported Senator Thurmond when he ran for President in 1948 on a platform supporting racial segregation based on white supremacy. Does the President agree with that? And Senator Lott also said he thought the country would be better off had Senator Thurmond and that cause won. Does the President support that? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon. The President today began his day with his usual intelligence briefings, followed by an FBI briefing. Then he met for approximately one hour with the President of Kenya and the Prime Minister of Ethiopia, where they discussed cooperation in the war against terrorism, they discussed regional issues involving security and the Horn of Afghan; they discussed the HIV-AIDS crisis in Africa and the United States commitment in the huge amount of aid that we are providing to help fight the scourge of AIDS in Africa. And they also discussed the food crisis that is affecting areas in the region, as well.

The President will shortly depart for the Islamic Center of Washington, D.C. -- or shortly give remarks at the Islamic Center of D.C. on the holiday of Eid al-Fitr. And then this evening the President will participate in the Christmas tree lighting and the Pageant of Peace on the Ellipse here in Washington.

With that, I'm happy to take your questions. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q Ari, when Tariq Aziz of Iraq says that his country possesses no weapons of mass destruction, how do we know that he's not telling the truth?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, Iraq has lied before and they're lying now about whether they possess weapons of mass destruction. Tariq Aziz's statement is very much like statements that Iraq made throughout the '90s, denying that they had weapons of mass destruction when, of course, it was found that they indeed had weapons of mass destruction. And so I see little reason to believe Iraq now when they have such a history of lying in the past about this very topic. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Well, I mean, you're saying, I don't see why, if they were lying in the past they wouldn't be lying now, but do you have anything that constitutes proof?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Let me cite for you something I think you will find constructive. This is July 31, 2002, Senator Biden's committee up on Capitol Hill, and this is a statement by Richard Butler, formerly of the United Nations. Quote -- this is Richard Butler speaking -- "It is essential to recognize that the claim made by Saddam's representative that Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction is false. Everyone concerned, from Iraq's neighbors to the U.N. Security Council to the Secretary of the U.N., with whom Iraq is currently negotiating on this issue -- everyone simply, Mr. Chairman, is being lied to."

And Mr. Butler, formerly of the U.N., continued, "From the beginning, Iraq refused to obey the law. Instead it actively sought to defeat the application of the law in order to preserve its weapons of mass destruction capabilities."

Two more paragraphs -- "The work of UNSCOM, the body created by the United Nations Security Council to take away Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, had various degrees of success -- varying degrees," said Mr. Butler. "But above all, it was not permitted to finish the job. Almost four years have now passed since Iraq terminated UNSCOM's work, and in that period, Iraq has been free of any inspection and monitoring of its WMD programs."

And then Mr. Butler concluded, "This shows two key things. One, Iraq remains in breach of international law, and two, it has been determined to maintain a weapons of mass destruction capability at all costs."

President Bush has said Iraq has weapons of mass destruction; Tony Blair has said Iraq has weapons of mass destruction; Donald Rumsfeld has said Iraq has weapons of mass destruction; Richard Butler has said they do; the United Nations has said they do; the experts have said they do. Iraq says they don't. You can choose who you want to believe. Read more Comment (0), Email this.

Q So -- but if you had this evidence other than what Richard Butler is talking about, why don't you lay it out on the table? Why don't you share it with the American public?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think the burden now falls on Saddam Hussein and his opportunity to shed that burden comes this weekend when he will send to the United Nations a declaration of the weapons that he possesses. And I think it will be a very interesting day to see what he says in that document, and we shall see what he says he has. Also we'll see what he says he doesn't have. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Why can't you present your own evidence, for god sake? Nobody is stopping you. And Butler knows damn well that we pulled the inspectors out.
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think, Helen, the burden is on Saddam Hussein to comply with the will of the United Nations and demonstrate -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Did we pull the inspectors out of Iraq?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: -- and Saddam Hussein by shooting at the inspectors, by bugging their rooms, by stopping them from being able to do their work, by holding them in parking lots for days, by slamming the gates to facilities they had every right under international law to inspect created an environment which they were withdrawn. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q To what extent are you worried that you could lose international support if no -- if the inspectors can't find any weapons?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, again, let's let events take their course. I think that it will be important to note what Saddam Hussein says when he submits this declaration over the course of the weekend. We'll see what he says, and we'll also see what he doesn't say when he submits this. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Can you just step us through a little bit how the United States government is going to deal with...
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Can you just step us through a little bit how the United States government is going to deal with this report? In other words, how information is going to get to various departments and agencies and experts, and what the administration is going to do with it? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Who is going to study it in the United States government? Do you have teams of experts at the CIA, State, Department of Defense people here? Can you spell that out a little bit?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Sure. I think there will be many people in various government agencies who will take a very careful look at it from an expert point of view to determine what it is that this document shows, and it will be a large number of people who take a look at it. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Now, Hans Blix and his team have said that they could be overwhelmed by this much information ...
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Now, Hans Blix and his team have said that they could be overwhelmed by this much information and documentation. It could take them a very long time, indeed, just to make their way through it. Is the United States prepared to provide translation assistance, analysis, sort of point the inspectors to special pages? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, three times you've mentioned what the report does not contain, which may in the end be more...
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, three times you've mentioned what the report does not contain, which may in the end be more significant, of course, than what it does contain. While you're reluctant right now to provide us with sort of a footnotes and backup evidence for the kind of statements like the one you read from Mr. Butler, after the report is out, is it the administration's intent to make public or to provide to the inspectors evidence of areas that you believe are not covered in the Iraqi declaration? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q There have been moments in American history when Presidents have decided that it was worthwhile...
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q There have been moments in American history when Presidents have decided that it was worthwhile to make some intelligence data public to prove the case and not simply make the statement. Adlai Stevenson at the U.N. is a famous one, but there have been others. Is it the administration's intention at this point to attempt that, to provide backup evidence, whether it's in the form of satellite photographs or other intelligence, to indicate areas that you believe that Saddam Hussein is -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q The burden of proof may lie on him, but the burden of putting together a coalition, if you believed...
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q The burden of proof may lie on him, but the burden of putting together a coalition, if you believed he has withheld information, obviously lies on the United States. And the way you put together that coalition is providing evidence to back up your claims and the claims of others. The question is -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q -- are you prepared to do that in public?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think in terms of assembling a coalition, the President is very well satisfied that the coalition is already assembling. The President has said that he will assemble a coalition of the willing, and the coalition has access to information and they know what I have just been saying to you, in citing these very public cases, including news reports. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Why can't the public know?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: We'll know this weekend, won't we, when Saddam Hussein makes his report. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q It's not your intention to make it public, is that where we're --
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Not make public -- Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q It's not your intention to make public intelligence that would contradict whatever is in Saddam's --
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: All events in due course. Let Saddam Hussein make his report this weekend, which is what the United Nations asked to happen, and that is what the President called for. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Is there any plan this weekend for the administration to respond to the declaration at all, any type of statement or is that something --
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, let him send his report. We'll take a look at what he does and what he says, and we'll keep you apprised as we receive the information. I can't guess. If he sends in one piece of paper with one paragraph on it, then it's rather easy to study it and it won't take much time. If he sends in tens of thousands of pages worth of documents, it will require some time to take a look at. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Is Bush meeting with the principals tomorrow to discuss how to respond to the declaration?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I haven't looked ahead at tomorrow's schedule in any case. He has a National Security Council meeting every day, so -- you know I read that out every morning, I tell you he has the meeting. I'm not at liberty to go into any of what is discussed at National Security Council meetings, but the President meets with the NSC every day. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Are you essentially confirming the statement of one member of the inspection team that if the ...
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Are you essentially confirming the statement of one member of the inspection team that if the U.S. has intelligence that points to Saddam's weapons of mass destruction program, it has not been shared with the inspectors? And if that's the case, why has it not been shared with the inspectors? And is it your plan to do so after the declaration -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Well, having said that, you can then say whether or not the inspector is accurate in saying that if you have the intelligence it has not been shared with the team.
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: We will continue to work closely with the inspectors as the events go along, as we always have. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, you talk about the coalition is already assembling, in sort of response to David's question...
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, you talk about the coalition is already assembling, in sort of response to David's question, you don't have to provide any additional information politically to bring this coalition together. How do you gauge the support in that light of Turkey for the operation, what's envisioned there? And can you expect to secure -- can the U.S. expect to secure use of Turkey as a staging ground for U.S. troops? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q You just had a Defense official, Mr. Wolfowitz, come back from Turkey, where they talked about these sorts of issues. What's your sense of the success of his mission there?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think as he described it, it was a very successful visit and he was pleased with his consultations with officials in Turkey. The President will be -- the President, as you know, met with Turkish officials during his visit to the Czech Republic, and important members of the Turkish government or governing structure will be coming to visit the President next week. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, in yesterday's briefing, you called Elliott Abrams a warrior for democracy. Shouldn't a warrior for democracy show more respect for the elected representatives of the people, namely the American Congress?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I said everything that the President believes on that topic, and I don't have anything additional or different to add to it today. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q He pleaded guilty, as you know, to two misdemeanor counts for essentially lying to Congress in the '80s about Iran-Contra. Is that consummate with being a warrior for democracy in your view and the President's view?
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think there is no question that, as a result of Elliott Abrams' efforts and the efforts of others as well, democracy has spread throughout Central and Latin America and he enjoys the tremendous faith and confidence of the President. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, if I can come back to Greg's question, when you say the coalition is already beginning to...
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
Q Ari, if I can come back to Greg's question, when you say the coalition is already beginning to form into place, there seems to be a few countries, including the British -- Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, I think -- I'm sure last week made these comments, that there's still a preference for another vote at the U.N. What is the White House position right now on, after all the information has been revealed, you have responded, does the Security Council get assembled again for another vote? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q If it's the U.N.'s prerogative, would Ambassador Negroponte be at the table? In other words, would the United States go along with potentially another vote?
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MR. FLEISCHER: The Security Council always has the right to meet, and the United States is a part of the Security Council. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q That's a yes?
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MR. FLEISCHER: About will he be at the table? Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Yes. If there is another vote -- in other words, the United States will go along with it if the majority of countries --
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MR. FLEISCHER: The United States is a member of the Security Council. But I don't think anybody can predict whether the United Nations will or will not need to go in for another vote, or whether or not -- but it is certainly the prerogative of the United Nations Security Council to meet as they see fit at any time. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, Iraq will have its say, of sorts, on Saturday when they release what has been described as...
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Q Ari, Iraq will have its say, of sorts, on Saturday when they release what has been described as a voluminous document. That will be their manifesto on what they have and what they don't have. You said this morning that the inspectors don't have access to all the intelligence information that U.S. officials have. Won't that then be the time for the U.S. to make public evidence that it has that may not be reflected in what the inspectors are finding, and would speak to what's omitted -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q But wouldn't it be reasonable? Wouldn't it be logical at that point if the facts, as you see them, are in direct opposition to what the Iraqis are asserting, wouldn't that be the time --
seen at 13:45, 5 December in Whitehouse Press Briefings.
MR. FLEISCHER: Let's wait and see what Saddam Hussein says this weekend. Maybe he will release a list of all his weapons of mass destruction and where they are, and that way the United Nations can go in and fulfill their mission to dismantle and destroy them. I'm not going to guess what Iraq will do this weekend, and I am not going to indicate every step that may or may not come following that action. Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Two questions. Does the President have any idea of perhaps making some kind of hierarchy for ...
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Q Two questions. Does the President have any idea of perhaps making some kind of hierarchy for material breaches? In other words, if you have smallpox vaccine, but you don't have a method of delivery -- in terms of taking military action for enforcement? And my second question has to do with United Airlines. Has there been any contact since yesterday's decision by the board between the administration and United Airlines? ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.
Q Ari, just to follow up on that, you did say that he was -- hr respected their decision. But ...
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Q Ari, just to follow up on that, you did say that he was -- hr respected their decision. But some congressional Republicans, including the Speaker, said they questioned the timing of it, coming last night before the machinists vote, saying it didn't give them a chance. Did the President have any concerns at all about the timing or -- ... Read more Comment (0), Email this.

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